The first one doesn't say anything about their belief being what's causing it, which is the point I was making really. "In typically Orky fashion, the sheer belief that these tools can work wonders often seems to mean they do just that!" In terms of belief, 7th ed 'da fixer upperz' As odd as it may seem, they are quite right" "Orks believe that a vehicle that has been painted red can outstrip a similar vehicle that isn't. WRT red paint jobs specifically, there’s two interpretations (that might both be true, even for the same vehicle) - 1) orkish belief makes a red vehicle just perform that little bit better and 2) ork mechs subconsciously think to paint the fastest vehicles they make red. It might stop a jam or malfunction that would have otherwise occurred, get that extra bit if performance out of an engine, etc nothing majorly physics defying, but just making things run that bit more smoothly.
orkish belief won’t make something work that wouldn’t otherwise function, but will help keep things running, making up for abuse by users, poor materials, dodgy workmanship etc. The best interpretation IMO is the ‘psychic lubricant’ one - I.e. The ‘clap your hands if you believe’ aspect of orks was originally presented in the 3rd Ed book as an exaggerated Ad Mech theory, though there is substantial evidence that there is some truth to it. descriptions in the codex, the stuff that isn't written with an unreliable narrator) say about the subject? What is the evidence for it being specifically their belief causing it - Can anyone give quotes that go one way or the other? So what does the out-of-universe lore (E.g. It's like people take it at face value anyway and don't apply any nuance to what's been said. The latter of these is the one that has been memed to the point of absurdity, where it's became "Orks believe it so its true" and then applied to all sorts of other things like just being responsible making their technology work at all (even though, as far as I'm aware, the idea of belief connecting to their technology has never once been established, while the technological skill and prowess of Meks has been many, many times), but I've not seen any quotes beyond that proposed theory that specifically mention it's their beliefs having an effect. Ork society is specifically responsible for the field effect. The Orks believe it (even though it's more like a fact to the Orks, not a conscious choice) so the field then does it. The field effect is responsible for that part of Ork Society.Ģ.
The Gestalt field just a built-in already programmed effect of making Red Faster that has then entered Ork culture and/or given them that belief. The Orks generate a gestalt field, but It doesn't seem clear on which of these it is with the Red Vehicles aspect or if there's some other reason (E.g., they just paint the best vehicles red):ġ. I remember there is an in-universe theory about it being their beliefs that causes red vehicles to be the fastest, but beyond that, I don't know of anything that actually supports it being their belief doing it. It's that i've seen this rule used as 'evidence' for the idea of Orks affecting reality with their beliefs, yet I can't recall seeing any actual quotes that support that being the case specifically. Red Ork vehicles being the fastest is established as a thing in the setting, that's not really in question here.
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